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Post by Hockeygenius on Apr 4, 2013 20:58:57 GMT -5
It has been brought to my attention that Troy Brouwer has been on the Clipper roster throughout the year when he shouldn't have been. Topguns noticed this and tried to pick him up this Wednesday. Here is how I am going to handle this.
1. I am removing Brouwer from the Clipper line-up. (since he technically should be a FA) 2. I will leave all points that the Clippers gained using Brouwer on his point total. (looking back at all transactions I can not find out how this happened so I have to take the blame for this) 3. Brouwer will be made a FA. (It would not be fair to allow Keith to pick Brouwer up when everyone thought he was on a live roster)
In the future if any GM notices that a player should or should not be on another roster the right thing to do is address it with me as soon as possible so the situation can be rectified.
Sorry for the confusion.
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Post by TopGuns on Apr 4, 2013 22:16:15 GMT -5
It has been brought to my attention that Troy Brouwer has been on the Clipper roster throughout the year when he shouldn't have been. Topguns noticed this and tried to pick him up this Wednesday. Here is how I am going to handle this. 1. I am removing Brouwer from the Clipper line-up. (since he technically should be a FA) 2. I will leave all points that the Clippers gained using Brouwer on his point total. (looking back at all transactions I can not find out how this happened so I have to take the blame for this). 3. Brouwer will be made a FA. (It would not be fair to allow Keith to pick Brouwer up when everyone thought he was on a live roster) In the future if any GM notices that a player should or should not be on another roster the right thing to do is address it with me as soon as possible so the situation can be rectified. Sorry for the confusion. Ok I do not accept this for a few reasons. 1. I am removing Brouwer from the Clipper line-up. (since he technically should be a FA). I agree with this2. I will leave all points that the Clippers gained using Brouwer on his point total. (looking back at all transactions I can not find out how this happened so I have to take the blame for this). How it happened...he was in cory's pre season roster and then on the 16 jan and he took him out for mike Ribeiro (before the season started) then on Mar 8 he benched Horton and dressed Brower (who was not on his team) and kept him in the line up till today(14games and 14.5pts) jay it is not your responsibility to monitor anyone roster. we should know who is on our teams.eligal player=no points. everyone is suppose to verrify their line up before the season. I have no doubt it was a Honest mistake however that being said as a GM you should be accountable for verrifying this,3. Brouwer will be made a FA. (It would not be fair to allow Keith to pick Brouwer up when everyone thought he was on a live roster) Why would it not be fair for me to pick up a guy who has been available since the first free agent week? Everyone had the oppertunity to pick him up all season (including cory) he was listed on the drops for anyone that wanted to look. (this is how i picked up PA parentau). I dont know how Cory forgot that Brower was not on his roster But Clearly he should have not been and was available for waive pick up by anyone and any points that was gained from Brower should not be valid in my opnionADDITION to the above post I want to make it clear that i in no way feel there was any wrong doing from anyone with this I was just looking to pick up a player that I felt was availabe
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Post by pipeguy on Apr 5, 2013 9:52:13 GMT -5
14.5 points? Why not just remove his points from total at year end? What other penalties should be applied? Lose a draft pick? Every GM should manage his roster better. Agreed?
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Post by thefirm on Apr 8, 2013 21:49:35 GMT -5
Ok so let me get this straight! Cory apparently has quit the pool for good and nothing has been done about Jason's situation. Cory gives up b/c of some type of confusion and now has left his roster run down without replacing injured players etc. The knucklers who have an inordinate amount of points on that roster refuses to do the honourable thing and withdraw this year. So where does this leave us with this year in the pool? A questionable finish to say the least. No legitimate winner can be established from here. As far as I am concerned this year should be completely scrapped as far as money distribution goes. The money that everyone has paid should go towards next years fees. I do not know about the rest of the league members, but I am not happy about having paid $50 to an a winner that has not been honest in how it is won, especially when his main competitor quits for no good reason. I think every league owner should put their own opinion in on this as to whether we should carry over everyone's $50 into next year while we find a suitable replacement for Cory, if in fact, he has quit this pool for good.
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Post by jasonpeters21 on Apr 9, 2013 16:31:51 GMT -5
Ok i agree with george scrap the yr. But if Cory has quit i think his team should be spread out among a dispersal draft. Any gm who takes over for him would have a stacked team. And i dont feel like payn some guy who just joined who did no work to get his team as good as it is $ every yr. Thats the problem i will have if cory has indeed quit. Or i could take over the Clippers and the new gm can have my team. Lol
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Post by TopGuns on Apr 9, 2013 18:42:41 GMT -5
you cant just scrap the season what happened with Cory and brower should not affect anything as at worst it was a 14.5 pt error not something that should have the whole season scrapped this makes little sense as not just the top end would be scrapped but the draft lottery as well... what would the order be for the draft? this is way too much of a over reaction! guys have put allot of time in to finishing either last or first.
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Post by thefirm on Apr 9, 2013 19:31:53 GMT -5
you cant just scrap the season what happened with Cory and brower should not affect anything as at worst it was a 14.5 pt error not something that should have the whole season scrapped this makes little sense as not just the top end would be scrapped but the draft lottery as well... what would the order be for the draft? this is way too much of a over reaction! guys have put allot of time in to finishing either last or first. Perhaps you should reread what I wrote. I mentioned the money that we have all paid should be used to pay next years fees. Placings can be what they are. People can go ahead and fight for whatever place they want. We scrap the money b/c the winner of this pool does not deserve it. If Jason wants a first place finish then he can have it, but no reward is given b/c of his actions. As far a you and Cory go, how can you determine who would have won. You chased him out of the pool, so why do you think you would have won. You held the brouwer thing in your back pocket until it was advantageous for you to use on the last week of free agency. It was obvious that Cory did not do this on purpose, but you think you can win simply by disqualifying both Jay and Cory. Sorry, Cory should lose points but b/c he quit b/c of you we will never get a true reading of who would have or should have finished where. SO NOBODY DESERVES THE WINNINGS.
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Post by doggonelucky on Apr 9, 2013 22:51:46 GMT -5
Just to let everyone know the luckydogs are officially quitting the league at the end of the year Thanks to everyone for the memories
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Post by TopGuns on Apr 10, 2013 0:47:53 GMT -5
if there are teams that are going to fold (hopefully cory changes his mind) I think the lower teams that are in the lottery should split up the 1 or 2 teams and go from there this would make the pool alot more competitive really quickly.
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Post by TopGuns on Apr 10, 2013 0:54:21 GMT -5
one more point to make ...
realistically Jay's team probally would have won the pool with the strenght of his team reguardless of the indiscressions
Cory, George and My team were very close in tallent and probally should be fighting for 2nd place.
again like i said the Brower thing was not a big issue with the points as i said I would just leave them there and leave the season as is with the exception of george when he decided to tank Me<jay and Cory have been dueling it out pretty good over the last 60days.
what is the point of scraping the season?
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Post by thefirm on Apr 10, 2013 1:38:57 GMT -5
if there are teams that are going to fold (hopefully cory changes his mind) I think the lower teams that are in the lottery should split up the 1 or 2 teams and go from there this would make the pool alot more competitive really quickly. This is a great idea. Lets split these 2 teams up amongst the building teams. Also, Once this is done, we can look at new blood with two new expansion teams come in with better rules. If we get all existing teams up and running and competitive immediately then every one of these teams can challenge for the win. That is what we need. I think this is a blessing in disguise. If you divide 40 good players amongst those teams we will have a very competitive field. Let's do it.
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Post by OilersKick on Apr 10, 2013 16:10:56 GMT -5
I think we should find a replacement for Danny's team and have a dispersal draft with Cory's, however we deem best to make this as competitive as possible, I really don't want too see Cory go, but if that's what he wants, this league should keep minimum 10 teams, Im sure Jay can find someone to take Dannys team, even someone from the UFHKL like zenon maybe?
Jay I know you've put a lot of time and effort into this pool, we all have, can we please come to a conclusion on all issues ASAP so we can get on with this. Jay maybe you should come up with a fair punishment for yourself, and we can all vote and if you can get majority, then we move on with it, you messed up now lets deal with this and not let it happen again. It seems like everyone else wants to keep this pool going.
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Post by Hockeygenius on Apr 12, 2013 13:46:38 GMT -5
Danny actually dropped out of all of his other drafts except for 1 due to his increased responsibilities at home and at work. I begged him to stay and he did but has rarely gone online so he thinks it would be fair for us to find a GM willing to put in more time to the draft. We will wait to the end of the year to address the issue. In the mean time let me know if you guys know people wanting to join the league.
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Post by OilersKick on Apr 29, 2013 10:21:57 GMT -5
How's the draft lottery working now? Say if the 7th last place oilers win the lottery and move into 1st pick.
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